Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!topaz!uwvax!geowhiz!netzer!prairie!dan From: dan@prairie.UUCP (Daniel M. Frank) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Gripes about /bin/sh AND /bin/csh Message-ID: <143@prairie.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Jun-86 14:26:27 EDT Article-I.D.: prairie.143 Posted: Sat Jun 7 14:26:27 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Jun-86 02:00:28 EDT References: <931@uwvax.UUCP> <1913@osu-eddie.UUCP> Reply-To: dan@prairie.UUCP (Daniel M. Frank) Organization: Prairie Computing, Madison, Wisconsin Lines: 27 Keywords: RTFM, HYRTML? >In case you haven't notice the recurring refrain in all of the above >response, it is this: > > Read the manual. >-- >Karl Kleinpaste I was one of the people who first tried to deal with Phil's problem here, and the one who encouraged him to post some of his questions to the net. I'm not particularly pleased by an arrogant response like this. The fact is, that Phil read the manual, and I read the manual, and neither of us could find, either in the manual or by experiment, solutions to some of the questions for which you only have your smug refrain. Perhaps we're just another couple stupid PhD students, but the manual wasn't a lot of help in this case. Unix manuals often leave out important information on the theory that you can read the source, so what do you need a manual for? We posted to usenet in order to draw on some experience that we presume is out there. If you are so smart, and you have all the solutions at your fingertips, why don't you share them instead of demon- strating how superior you are (do you really know the solutions? We can't tell, can we?)? -- Dan Frank ... uwvax!geowhiz!netzer!prairie!dan -or- dan@caseus.wisc.edu