Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!columbia!caip!nike!cad!pavepaws!keppel From: keppel@pavepaws.berkeley.edu (David Keppel) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: windows on normal terminals Message-ID: <588@cad.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 11-Jun-86 12:59:37 EDT Article-I.D.: cad.588 Posted: Wed Jun 11 12:59:37 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Jun-86 06:29:10 EDT References: <363@hrc63.UUCP> <16600003@ztivax.UUCP> <522@cad.BERKELEY.EDU> <395@dg_rtp.UUCP> Sender: news@cad.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: keppel@pavepaws.UUCP (David Keppel) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 38 Keywords: workstation windows terminal Summary: Crystal balls In article <395@dg_rtp.UUCP> throopw@dg_rtp.UUCP (Wayne Throop) writes: >> keppel@pavepaws.UUCP (:-D avid K eppel) >>> david@ztivax.UUCP >>>Therefore, it sounds like nice windowing systems for multi-user >>>machines are possible. me: >> In a few years most new terminals will probably be high- >> performance, micros w/ high-resolution bitmap graphics and built-in >> windowing OS software. Why fool with this obsolete 24-line stuff? ^^^^^^^^ ;-) ;-) I based my comments on a couple of things: >First, I am developing software now, not "a few years" from now. So am I. However, I have found 4.3 window(1) on 24-line terminals awkward to use, and I don't think this is a bad implementation. >Second, the terminal that my employer sees fit to provide for >me is an "obsolete 24-line" terminal, despite my preference for a $100K >workstation. I can't understand why an $n-hundred terminal and 1/mth of >a $100K machine [...] The cheapest "reasonable" terminals that I have seen are about $500. A Mac running uw (unix windows) costs about $1200 (I think), and even workstations don't cost that much more; I think that the posting a few months back about cheap *nix boxes concluded that you could by a Sun 3/75 with a small hard disk and ethernet connection for about $9K. That's about 20X more expensive than the dumb terminal, but includes local computing power. >"Personal workstations are the technology of the future, > and always will be." "Intelligent terminals are a thing of the future whose time has passed" ;-D avid K eppel ..!ucbvax!pavepaws!keppel "Learning by Osmosis: Gospel in, Gospel out"