Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.unix,net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Unix History Message-ID: <6807@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jun-86 21:01:30 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.6807 Posted: Mon Jun 16 21:01:30 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Jun-86 21:01:30 EDT References: <212@butler.UUCP> <6780@utzoo.UUCP>, <1345@oddjob.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 31 > This raises the burning question: whatever happened to > Systems I and II, and, especially, IV? ... Adam Reed and Matt Perez have already answered this moderately well, but I'll throw in a few more tidbits. System I was, approximately, PWB, which was released. System II was an improved PWB, incorporating some useful things like a souped-up shell; it was never released because just then AT&T was not sure it wanted to continue distributing useful new goodies to potential competitors. After the decision to continue with distribution was made, System III was released, well after it was in use internally. System IV never made it out because it was already in use when SysIII came out, and the decision to bring external releases into sync with internal ones overtook it. System V was then released. Since "System V" has now become a magic marketing buzzword, the top-level numbering is absolutely frozen for external purposes, and all future releases will be V.something rather than VI, VII, etc. Fortuitously, this happens to avoid 4, 6, and 7, which correspond to other well-known flavors of Unix. If you want to get a look at what System IV was like, check out the PDP11 distribution of System V. PDP11 SysV is really SysIV. Although AT&T won't admit it in so many words, they effectively abandoned work on PDP11 Unix a long time ago. For example, although some of the SysV performance work wouldn't fit on the 11, *some* of it would. None of it was applied to PDP11 SysV. The PDP11 SysV shared-memory stuff is also different from and incompatible with the regular SysV version. -- Usenet(n): AT&T scheme to earn revenue from otherwise-unused Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology late-night phone capacity. {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry