Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!husc6!harvard!think!nike!lll-crg!lll-lcc!pyramid!pesnta!scc!steiny From: steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: DEC is no worse than anyone else - Apology Message-ID: <668@scc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jun-86 13:55:06 EDT Article-I.D.: scc.668 Posted: Wed Jun 18 13:55:06 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jun-86 08:12:04 EDT Organization: Don Steiny Software Lines: 33 Keywords: ULTRIX I am sorry that I got mad at ULTRIX. I lost a $75,000.00 contract because my software, which allegedly worked or 4.2 (it does) did not work on ULTRIX. The reason it did not work is because the acct data structure had several fields that were "comp_t" on UNIX were "float" on ULTRIX. I have been informed that from one version of ULTRIX to the next it also changes. End users believe what DEC says. WE believed DEC, and we were naive enough to believe that ULTRIX was 4.2. Now I am going to have to eat rice for a while. ULTRIX is no worse than anyone else. HP has a very good UNIX that is "system V compatible" that has the 4.2 file system. Any system level program that accesses the file system needs to know that. (At least the man page reflects the change, though). "Compatible" is a marketing term, not an engineering term. I am sure there are many nice people at DEC (I have certainly met many) that are really trying to do a good job. I am sure that when they read what the marketing folks are saying they cringe. It is especially tought here on the West Coast because DEC is an East Coast company and it is not easy to get in touch with the right people, where it is easy to get in touch with people from Sun, Pyramid, and so on. -- scc!steiny Don Steiny @ Don Steiny Software 109 Torrey Pine Terrace Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 (408) 425-0382