Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!caip!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!cwruecmp!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Newsgroups: net.decus,net.unix,net.usenix Subject: Operating systems Message-ID: <1240@ncoast.UUCP> Date: Sat, 21-Jun-86 09:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: ncoast.1240 Posted: Sat Jun 21 09:59:59 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Jun-86 04:01:27 EDT References: <339@valid.UUCP> <452@geowhiz.UUCP> <740@eneevax.UUCP> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Followup-To: net.decus Distribution: net Organization: North Coast Computer Resources Lines: 35 Xref: linus net.decus:370 net.unix:7659 net.usenix:569 Expires: Quoted from <740@eneevax.UUCP> ["Re: Favorite operating systems query"], by umdhep@eneevax.UUCP... +--------------- | VMS is the nicest operating system I've ever used (out of a sample of | about 7, which isn't all that many). Period. I just wanted to clarify | and correct the points made in the parent articles. Most of the | complaints that I hear fro +---------------------------^ Does anyone see a line-eater around? I don't have ANY experience with VMS, so I cannot comment. I am familiar with Unix and have used TOPS-20; Unix I like for its simplicity and power, TOPS-20 for its user interface (but the CLI reminds me of CP/M-80 ). Neither is perfect. I think it's about time for another Unix-birthing type of brainstorm: someone sit down and write a new operating system using the basic principles of Unix, combined with all that we have learned in 16 years. Since it'd be a new operating system, the writers wouldn't have to maintain ``compatibility'' with the various mistakes taht Unix has accumulated; although I'd suggest compatibility libraries to (attempt to) translate Unix facilities into equivalent ones in the new OS. I'd try my hand at it myself, but the only computers I can program for this purpose are an ITT XTRA (nice machine, but a multitasking OS for an 8088 is a contradiction in terms, Xenix notwithstanding) and a TRS-80 Model I (nice processor, TERRIBLE machine!). I'd be shot at dawn if I tried to use TDI'd P/60 for the experiment -- although it'd be a nice machine if I could get my hands on one of my own... Anyone know if maybe this new genesis is already going on? --Brandon -- ihnp4!sun!cwruecmp!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@Case.CSNET ncoast!tdi2!brandon (ncoast!tdi2!root for business) 6615 Center St. #A1-105, Mentor, OH 44060-4101 Phone: +01 216 974 9210 CIS 74106,1032 MCI MAIL BALLBERY (part-time)