Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ucbvax!CSNET-RELAY.ARPA!MUKHOP%RCSJJ%gmr.com From: MUKHOP%RCSJJ%gmr.com@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Creativity and Analogy Message-ID: <8606250659.AA08024@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 19-Jun-86 20:54:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8606250659.AA08024 Posted: Thu Jun 19 20:54:00 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Jun-86 17:34:16 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 26 Approved: ailist@sri-ai.arpa Jay Weber states: >I believe that one could give a reasonable definition of analogy that >encompasses all intelligent activity, or at least inductive learning >(which is a biggie as far as intelligence goes). I think inductive learning is only half of the story. The other half is to instantiate what is learned, in another domain. >I question, however, >how useful it is in AI to relate a slippery word like "analogy" to an >even slipperier word like "creativity". A formal approach with those >two terms will satisfy very few people, and an informal approach will >only give us an inflated opinion of the value of our own research, >which is largely why people make such comparisons. Yes, I do want to understand "creativity" in terms of less slippery concepts, such as "analogy". We are forced to start with informal approaches but hope to find more formal definitions. I do not understand why a formal approach would satisfy very few people or why an informal approach would serve no useful purpose. I am sure that you do not imply that an analysis (formal or informal) of >anything< is futile. What is it about "creativity" that makes its analysis a no-win proposition? Uttam Mukhopadhyay GM Research Labs