Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!seismo!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!XEROX.COM!Newman.pasa From: Newman.pasa@XEROX.COM.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Re: common sense Message-ID: <860714-094227-1917@Xerox> Date: Mon, 14-Jul-86 12:42:00 EDT Article-I.D.: Xerox.860714-094227-1917 Posted: Mon Jul 14 12:42:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Jul-86 22:37:49 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 22 Approved: ailist@sri-ai.arpa Thanks for the reply. Dreyfus' view seems to have changed a bit since I last read anything of his, so I will let that go. However, I suspect that what I am about to say applies to him too. I like your description of Searle's argument. It puts some things in a clearer light than Searle's own stuff. However, I think that my point still stands. Searle's argument seems to assume some "magical" property (I really should be more careful when I use this term; please understand that I mean only that the property is unexplained, and that I find its existence highly unintuitive and unlikely) of biology that allows neurons (governed by the laws of physics, probably entirely deterministic) to produce a phenomena (or epiphenomena if you prefer - intelligence) that is not producible by other deterministic systems. What is this strange feature of neurobiology? What reason do we have to believe that it exists other than the fact that it must exist if the Chineese Room argument is correct? I personally think it much more likely that there is a flaw somewhere in the Chineese Room argument. >>Dave