Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!seismo!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!SRI-STRIPE.ARPA!BARNARD From: BARNARD@SRI-STRIPE.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: perception (realist vs. representationalist position) Message-ID: <8607141743.AA01420@> Date: Mon, 14-Jul-86 13:09:34 EDT Article-I.D.: .8607141743.AA01420 Posted: Mon Jul 14 13:09:34 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Jul-86 22:38:42 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 21 Approved: ailist@sri-ai.arpa Maybe I've never really understood the arguments of the so-called "perceptual realists" (Gibson, etc.), because their position that we do not build internal representations of the objects of perception, but rather perceive the world directly (whatever that means), seems obviously wrong. Consider what happens when we look at a realistic painting. We can, at one level, see it as a painting, or we can see it as a scene with no objective existence whatsoever. How could this perception possibly be interpreted as anything but an internal representation? In many or perhaps even all situations, the stimuli available to our sense organs are insufficient to specify unique external objects. The job of perception, as opposed to mere sensation, is to complement the stimulus information to create a fleshed-out interpretation that is consistent both with the stimulus and with our knowledge and expectations. Gibson emphasized the richness of the visual stimulus, arguing that much more information was available from it than was generally realized. But to go from this observation to the conclusion that the stimulus is in all cases sufficient for perception is clearly not justified. -------