Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!cisunx.UUCP!gu044150%pitt From: gu044150%pitt@cisunx.UUCP (elliot m) Newsgroups: mod.computers.vax Subject: Re: (none) Message-ID: <8607071740.AA20095@cisunx> Date: Mon, 7-Jul-86 13:40:30 EDT Article-I.D.: cisunx.8607071740.AA20095 Posted: Mon Jul 7 13:40:30 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Jul-86 01:24:07 EDT References: <8607020217.AA10512@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Mike Elliot Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys Lines: 33 Approved: info-vax@sri-kl.arpa In article <8607020217.AA10512@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> terry@BRL.ARPA writes: > > I actually had to program in FORTRAN (heaven forbid) on VMS and >had to do the equivalent of a Unix sleep() call. Sounds reasonable >right? Hah! After spending 3-4 hours wading through the VMS manuals I >discover that I have to do a "scheduled wakeup" for my process and then >a "hibernate". Of course there are optional arguments to both calls >which I have to decipher. In addition, I have to call a special routine >to generate the correct arguement to the wakeup call. Now, I realize >that this is somewhat similiar to the internals of the Unix sleep() >function, but isn't it nicely packaged? Try LIB$WAIT it behaves the same way that sleep does on UNIX. >program pauses for the required number of seconds. Obviously not >everything is conceptually this easy, but when it is why make it so >hard to do? Unix has been termed User unfriendly (with some reason), >but I think a point can be made for VMS being programmer unfriendly. Sorry pal, but UNIX never was and never will be a friendly evironment. It is designed to be a good programming environment and it is just that. Unfortunately or fortunately UNIX is only good if you are programming in C, PASCAL, or LISP. It has the world's worst FORTRAN compiler I have ever seen. This is not to say that I love VMS and hat UNIX. I enjoy programming on both of them depending on what my needs are at a particular time. Generally I use UNIX if I want to get into some serious programming or VMS if I want to do some business related stuff. Mike Elliot cadre!pitt!cisunx!guo44150