Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!ucbcad!nike!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!Love-Hounds-Post From: Love-Hounds-Post@mit-eddie.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest (Issue L4) Message-ID: <2400@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 27-Jun-86 04:19:30 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.2400 Posted: Fri Jun 27 04:19:30 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jun-86 00:40:18 EDT Sender: nessus@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Organization: M.I.T. EE/CS Computer Facility, Cambridge MA Lines: 208 Approved: nessus@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Issue L4 Topics: * HoL on CD & HoL vs The Dreaming * Classical comparisons / Cute Quotes * rambling and review * A Complexing Listing. . . * Robert Fripp, Toyah, Crafty Guitarists [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: EMAILDEV%UKACRL.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA Via: UK.AC.SUSX.VAX2; 25 JUN 86 14:48:56 BST Date: 25-JUN-1986 14:38:10 From: SSUD3%UK.AC.SUSSEX.VAX2@AC.UK A few brief notes: Although I havn't had a chance to thoroughly compare them, the first difference I have noticed between the second Japanese pressing of the CD of "Hounds of Love" and the original British-released pressing is in the beginning of "Running up that Hill." One things I've always noticed (and sort of been bugged by) is how the fairlight droning intro (when I listen on headphones, or turn it up loudly) has a "break" in it - so instead of steadily fading in from nothing, it sort of fades in a bit, and then suddenly increases in volume, which was probably due to some sort of CD mastering error. (Perhaps the engineer sneezed while holding onto the fader....) However, on the Japanese second pressing, they must have corrected it, 'cos it fades in evenly and slowly. (OK, flame at me for promoting KT trivia... Secondly, the new Big Country album (oh no...) just got a rave review by Melody Maker, which specifically pointed out "Kate Bush's ATHLETIC warbling" and it's celtic/folk influences and overall progression from the earlier albums. Nyah Nyah Nyah.... Adding fuel to the "HoL" vs. "The Dreaming" fire..... I don't have time to go into detail, but one difference between the two albums (which helps me determine which one is "better") is that while listening to "TD", I can never concentrate on anything but the music, and end up somewhat mesmerized by it. However, on "Hounds" there are times that my attention can wander. Of course, there's more to it than this, but my friend is pestering me to hurry up, so more later. Hugh [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 25 Jun 86 10:35:00 PST From: "ROSSI J.A." Subject: Classical comparisons / Cute Quotes Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." Just teasing, Doug. Besides, I forgot about the 'Rite of Spring'. I have strong feelings concerning the comparisons of modern 'POP' music with anything classical (pre 1850) or what I consider neo-classical. This status we give to 'old' music, is given because it is 'old' and has stood the test of time, not because of what it sounds like. There were undoubtedly hundreds of composers, song-writers, etc who lived in the 17, 18 and 19 centuries who are unhgeard of today. They are, then, not classical composers. Sorry, I got to go and attend some sonar stuf, I'll continue later. John [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 86 11:59:49 EST From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Bill Hsu) Subject: rambling and review < Shelli raves about Smithereens > Uhhh... I've seen the Blood and Roses video several times and can't really say it's memorable (musically or visually). A decent bit of jangly, catchy pop, but nothing terribly exciting (the review of their earlier stuff in New Trouser Press Record Guide comes to mind here...) And now, the surprise unasked-for half-assed notes on: LAURIE ANDERSON AT THE HOLIDAY STAR, MERRILLVILLE INDIANA (where?) Well after some misadventures (all of which were my fault, sigh) the Terrible Trio (Kitty, Andy and me) finally made it to Mville. A rather low trendies to non-trendies ratio, and I overheard some people saying they thought Laurie Anderson was fusion :-) :-). LA had two male backup singers and a keyboards player. For detailed notes on her equipment, setup, etc., refer to expert opinion on net.music, net.music.synth, net.music.classical (well maybe not) or just Tom Janzen. Since there've been tons of Laurie Anderson reviews in the past three months, I'll just mention some neat details. LA came on stage thru the audience, and for quite a few songs sat on the edge of the stage. I had always thought from listening to the albums that she was kind of a distant, playful performer who doesn't get close to the audience. Some of the old stuff she did (I don't have the new album): Big Science (the simple slide show really enhanced this one; lovely) Sweaters (hilarious mangled version with tape loop of lascivious panting) Walking & Falling Oh Superman Let x=x/it tango Kokoku (with the famous airplane and snowflake slides) Gravity's Angel (the highlight of the evening; the almost-industrial sounds and powerful delivery evoked superbly the flavor of some scenes from the Pynchon book) She did two encores: Walk the Dog and Language is a Virus. While I still don't think much of the new material, her performance of the old stuff is really worth seeing. Don't miss her when she comes into your area. Bill Hsu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 86 16:05:54 EDT From: James B Hofmann Subject: A Complexing Listing. . . FYI - Show Dates for the Summer at the Complex, 1239 9th St. Washington, DC Jun 27 - ANGRY SAMOANS / CORROSION OF CONFORMITY / DEAD MILKMEN Jul 9 - PEACH OF IMMORTALITY / FOUNDATION MFD 10 - MDC 13 - STRAW DOGS (formerly F.U.s) 18 - DESCENDANTS / DAG NASTY 25 - SONIC YOUTH Aug 1 - DEATH OF SAMANTHA 7 - 7 SECONDS / TOXIC REASONS [][][][][][][][][][] From: harvard!ima!inmet!ada-uts!wayne Date: Wed, 25 Jun 86 20:34:21 edt This is my first love-hounds note, so I'd thought instead of contributing to various debates (be they useful or not), I'd offer some news on Robert Fripp. Here is the scoop: sometime this month Editions EG will be releasing two albums of his. One is "Robert Fripp and Toyah Wilcox: The Lady or the Tiger?" This album has on one side Toyah telling children's stories at least some of which are written by Frank Stockton. The other side has music from the League of Crafty Guitarists. The other album is "Robert Fripp and the League of Crafty Guitarists: Live". This album has on it one piece of Frippertronics (the background is the same basic loop as "God Save the Queen"), and the rest is music recorded live from the Crafty Guitarists from concerts performed at George Washington University last December. Who is "the League", you may ask (and so you may). The League is a collection of guitar students that Robert has been teaching in the US. He has been holding seminars during the past year and a half at Claymont Court, a Gurdjieff/Bennet community in West Virginia. The music of "the Crafties" is uncatagorized (so don't ask me what kind it is -- I hate these questions, almost as much as I hate labels). There are a lot of twentieth century classical music influences (the most obvious being Bartok) and some pop influences (a little...) and some improvisation as well. Robert wrote most of the music, but there are I think two student compositions on it as well. It is all performed on Ovation guitars-- twenty of them in fact. Yes, twenty guitar students and Robert were performing at these concerts. It is all very listenable, and I liked what I heard from tapes of the concerts as well as a tape of a test pressing. (I would say the music is of the same vein as the album "I Advanced Masked"... or rather, it is closer to that than to any of King Crimson's works.) There are rumors that Robert and the advanced students of the League will be touring in the winter; I don't know yet. When I find out I'll post it (if I can). How do I know all this? Well, I am a Crafty Guitarist; I'll be there next winter. By the way, he and Toyah were introduced last fall at some prearranged gathering at Editions EG. Robert was to be her producer. I didn't get to meet her (she's also a Crafty Guitarist), but what I heard was that they hit it off very well... so well that he proposed a short time later, on Christmas Day. And now they've tied the knot... If anyone is interested in attending these classes, I can be a little less vague (the opaqueness was intentional) and tell you more about them. I didn't want to bore anyone with my first note... Wayne Wylupski ...!{ihnp4,ima}!inmet!ada-uts!wayne [][][][][][][][][][]