Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!QUABBIN.SCRC.Symbolics.COM!DCP From: DCP@QUABBIN.SCRC.Symbolics.COM.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Re: IEEE and Ethernet Message-ID: <860627202416.8.DCP@FIREBIRD.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> Date: Fri, 27-Jun-86 20:24:00 EDT Article-I.D.: FIREBIRD.860627202416.8.DCP Posted: Fri Jun 27 20:24:00 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jun-86 10:54:25 EDT References: <8606272158.AA12405@trantor.UMD.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 37 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Date: Fri, 27 Jun 86 17:58:28 EDT From: Louis A. Mamakos It is because of things like this that standardization bodies have bad reputations. You can definitly smell a standard written by committee, with each member's own hidden agenda slipped in somewhere. A somewhat constructive question: Is it written down what the Charter and Goals of the 802 standards committee is? Is "to allow flexibility for experimentation" one of the goals? If not, then there are several organizations that will not be able to use 802 because they need the ability to experiment (and get work done, since non-ISO things are (by their definition) experimental). If so, I think they need to be informed they are not addressing this goal. BTW, the reason I wrote ARP the way I did is because I KNEW there was more than one protocol in the world, and that there would be more. (It was a bit easy, because I was trying to solve the same problem for two different protocols (CHAOS and IP).) I also knew the protocols had different length addresses, and thus the protocol-address-length field. I also knew that Ethernet was the only hardware medium. Thus the hardware-type field. I knew that addresses on different hardwares had different lengths, thus the hardware-address-length field. I knew that this would solve the GENERAL problem stated in the first three paragraphs (Introduction, The Problem, and Motivation). I know the real world is more diverse and more interesting than a one track (collective) mind. This will delay acceptance and conversion from the DEC-Intel-XEROX Ethernet standard quite a while, at least around here. If it works, why break it? Standards are great; everyone should have one of their own. Louis A. Mamakos WA3YMH Internet: louie@TRANTOR.UMD.EDU University of Maryland, Computer Science Center - Systems Programming