Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ucbvax!SEISMO.CSS.GOV!mo From: mo@SEISMO.CSS.GOV (Mike O'Dell) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: IEEE-ISO Brain Death Message-ID: <8606281229.AA25219@seismo.CSS.GOV> Date: Sat, 28-Jun-86 08:29:46 EDT Article-I.D.: seismo.8606281229.AA25219 Posted: Sat Jun 28 08:29:46 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jun-86 22:58:36 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 31 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa It is clear the dreaded ISOOSI virus rotted the brain tissue of the IEEE committee, but why not solve the problem simply... (1) ARP is basically part of the mechanism for encapsulating IP datagrams on a local network. (2) There is a LSAP (or whatever) assigned for the DOD-IP suite. So..... Just change the "official" IP encapsulation to start with a 16-bit TYPE field, followed by whatever is defined by that field. With that, you can get ARP, you can get IP, you can get experimental protocols, you can get on with your life in spite of the crufty IEEE spec. Problems?? It breaks things. Well, so does their change. And it is early in the upheaval cycle. The other alternative is to get an LSAP defined for an EXTENSIBLE structure, with a field, and an Official Assigner. That has far more geopolitical problems than getting IP implementers to use the "sanctioned" IP encapsulation, but is desirable for more global reasons. Anyway, this approach would solve our problem, and move its administration back into a universe with lower entropy and more reality. -Mike O'Dell (I guess this is really a "secret" OLD ETHERNET type disguised as DOD-IP. So be it. Someone has to be clever around here. It sure ain't the people designing standards.)