Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!cbosgd!ucbvax!J.BBN.COM!mckenzie From: mckenzie@J.BBN.COM (Alex McKenzie) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: DoD Representation at ISO Message-ID: <8607092318.AA08379@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 9-Jul-86 14:43:13 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8607092318.AA08379 Posted: Wed Jul 9 14:43:13 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Jul-86 22:57:25 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 28 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa John, 1) It is not my experience that ISO is in the habit of "rubber stamping" standards developed by other groups. The ECMA proposals for Transport were extensively modified by input from other groups, ESPECIALLY NBS in the Class 4 portion, following the original ECMA submission in about 1980. I agree that IEEE 802 may be rubber-stamped. I think the others you mentioned have undergone change and evolution in ISO after initial submission by the other groups, although I'm not intimately familiar with all of them. BBN has not been under contract from NBS for participation in the standards process for about 1.5 years (except Virtual Terminal work, which is also ended, but more recently) due, as I understand it, to NBS budget constraints. This is apparently one of those areas where the current administration believes private industry will do an adequate job without government support. NBS has repeatedly insisted on the sole right to distribute documentation prepared by BBN under NBS contract. We tried, without success, to change this several times, since our output was text files stored on ARPANET-accessible computers. BBN has, at least sporadically, tried to help inform the ARPANET community. In particular, I point with pride to the fact that we manually input the entire text of substantial ISO documents to make them available as RFCs (892,905,926, 941). Of course, one can always do more. In my opinion you are simply wrong when you say that the ISO Transport protocol was developed "without any significant inputs from the ARPNET world".