Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!cbosgd.ATT.COM!mark From: mark@cbosgd.ATT.COM.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: RING vs. ETHER - Theory and practice. Message-ID: <8607210511.AA02538@cbosgd.ATT.COM> Date: Mon, 21-Jul-86 01:11:44 EDT Article-I.D.: cbosgd.8607210511.AA02538 Posted: Mon Jul 21 01:11:44 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Jul-86 20:28:07 EDT References: <12224206784.24.JNC@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 18 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa In article <12224206784.24.JNC@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU> you write: > The point of all this is that nets ought to have a reasonable >hardware acknowledgement feature that would let you know when a host could >not accept a packet destined to it. I don't know why the didn't put one in >Ethernet; it would have been really trivial. The CHAOS hardware built at >the MIT AI Lab (which was a 4MB/sec Ether like system) had such a feature; >the recipient jammed the cable (causing a collision) if a packet for that >destination could not be handled. I note that 802.2 has a whole bunch of "connection oriented" features added onto the side of Ethernet. While I assume most of us are ignoring them (I gather they were put there by X.25 types) I wonder if there would be a clean way to use these facilities to get an ack or nak back for normal IP type datagrams? Since I gather we have some standards to work out regarding ARP on 802.2 anyway, maybe this would be a good time to adopt some other conventions too? Mark