Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!umcp-cs!fred From: fred@umcp-cs.UUCP (Fred Blonder) Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: Car Detectors Message-ID: <2662@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 30-Jul-86 01:49:10 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.2662 Posted: Wed Jul 30 01:49:10 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Jul-86 21:40:17 EDT References: <2974@watvlsi.UUCP> <4839@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <992@kitty.UUCP> <4347@srcsip.UUCP> Organization: Computer Sci. Dept, U of Maryland, College Park, MD Lines: 33 Summary: Question: How can I intentionally trip a car detector? In article <992@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: In article <4839@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>, josh@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU writes: What's the circuitry behind the buried-wire car detectors at stoplights? Technical details please. The buried wire vehicle detectors used with traffic lights work on the principle of an inductance bridge. The buried loop is one arm of a low frequency inductance bridge (generally 100 KHz to 200 KHz excitation). When a vehicle is present within the loop, the inductance increases from its free air value by virtue of the ferrous metal in the vehicle acting as a "core". This change in inductance is detected by a bridge circuit in some signal devices, and by detuning the frequency of an LC tank in an oscillator in other devices. . . . Question: Would it be feasible to build a transponder-like device (preferably out of parts available at the local Radio Shack) to carry on my bicycle so I can trip traffic lights when I'm riding home late at night and there are no cars to trip the sensors? I've found that the inductive-loop car detectors around here don't detect my bike frame unless I dismount and lay the bike down in the street on top of the loop, which is not only a bother, but dangerous as well if a car DOES actually come along then (Murphy's law). Some lights do not have a safety timeout, or maybe it's just absurdly long. Does anyone have any idea of the legal implications of such a device? -- Fred Blonder (301) 454-7690 harpo!seismo!umcp-cs!fred Fred@Maryland.ARPA