Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: MIPS machine Message-ID: <915@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Fri, 25-Jul-86 06:59:36 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.915 Posted: Fri Jul 25 06:59:36 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Jul-86 20:54:33 EDT References: <6964@utzoo.UUCP> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 21 Henry was noodging DEC for only selling packaged systems while MIPS would sell chips, boards, or systems. Maybe the reason is: I heard a rumor that MIPS does not *build* the development system that they sell. It's OEMed from Plexus. This is an utterly reasonable idea. Consider how much pain would have been saved had Motorola sold Suns rather than their odd, slow Versados systems. Even a box from one of those fly-by-night companies that were formed to provide a market for Unisoft would have been better. How many people ever want to see an Intel Development System again? [Of course you need to create the tools needed for cross-development, but OEM hardware and software, as a base to build development systems on, seems to follow the leading edge a lot closer than chip-mfrs' hardware and software.] I'm curious why MIPS hasn't made this rumor public knowledge. Perhaps Plexus is not selling the system through its own sales offices yet? -- John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa May the Source be with you!