Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!topaz!uwvax!husc6!harvard!cmcl2!philabs!polaris!herbie From: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.cycle,net.auto Subject: Re: Seat belts, Helmets and Freedom of Choice Message-ID: <668@polaris.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Jul-86 16:11:02 EDT Article-I.D.: polaris.668 Posted: Sun Jul 27 16:11:02 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Jul-86 03:45:19 EDT References: <5348@sun.uucp> <6133@sri-spam.ARPA> <543@ur-tut.UUCP> Reply-To: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Distribution: net Organization: IBM TJ Watson RC Lines: 36 Keywords: Who pays? Xref: watmath net.politics:17814 net.cycle:1864 net.auto:11947 In article <543@ur-tut.UUCP> junk@ur-tut.UUCP (Jan Vandenbrande) writes: >In article <6133@sri-spam.ARPA> robert@sri-spam.ARPA (Robert Allen) writes: >>has saved my head and face twice. However, I opposed the enaction of the >>mandatory seatbelt law in California for the same reason I oppose mandatory >>helmet laws; it's my business what I do with my body. Note that the seatbelt >> .... > Indeed it is anyones business what they do with their body. >But who pays for a person to be patched up after an accident? The insurance. >And who pays the insurance? Right, we all do (so I hope). And now it >becomes my business too. If I indirectly have to pay for you to be >scraped from the pavement and be reassembled, I'd rather have your, >mine and everyone's elses freedom diminished a bit by requiring >everyone to wear protective devices such as helmets, seatbelts, etc. >The small sacrifice is worth the benefit. in exchange for the PRIVILEGE of using public roads, you must exchange a little bit of your personal freedoms for the good of the many. if you don't want to wear a seatbelt, do it on private roads. this has been rehashed many times in net.auto and will continue to be talked about until people realize that public roads are different than private roads. are tollways considered private? if so, the people running them could impose just about any safety laws they wanted. Herb Chong, IBM Research... I'm still user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... VNET,BITNET,NETNORTH,EARN: HERBIE AT YKTVMH UUCP: {allegra|cbosgd|cmcl2|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!philabs!polaris!herbie CSNET: herbie%ibm.com@csnet-relay ARPA: herbie@ibm.com, herbie%yktvmh.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu ======================================================================== DISCLAIMER: what you just read was produced by pouring lukewarm tea for 42 seconds onto 9 people chained to 6 Ouiji boards.