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From: dennisg@pwcs.UUCP (Dennis Grittner)
Newsgroups: net.crypt,net.dcom
Subject: Security and dialbacks
Message-ID: <199@pwcs.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 17-Jul-86 13:14:21 EDT
Article-I.D.: pwcs.199
Posted: Thu Jul 17 13:14:21 1986
Date-Received: Fri, 18-Jul-86 05:35:00 EDT
Reply-To: dennisg@pwcs.UUCP (Dennis Grittner)
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
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Keywords: security , dialbacks
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I need a little help from all you brothers and sisters out there!
The head of the City's ( Saint Paul - where I work ) Finance and
Management Services Department is demanding that we install dial
back modems UNLESS i can come up with an acceptable alternate.
Our system would like to be connected with certain other City systems
that employ dialbacks. I am arguing that this would be a severe
inconvenience for us what with Mail and usenet from other local
and national sites to us happening quite often every day.

So, the help I need is ANY information any of you might have
about break-ins including the internal kind ( I contend that
outside break-ins are more unlikely than internal security
problems ) and what everybody has done or is doing about them. If
anybody has any stuff from any Usenix conferences on this subject
I would really appreciate getting a copy.

I would especially appreciate any information that any of you
might have concerning a similar situation where a Unix host is
connected to another computer that requires dialbacks or some
similar kind of security. Our proposed method of interconnection
would use tip so we would essentially act as a simple data switch
for this access.

Dennis Grittner
City of Saint Paul Department of Public Works
Computer Services Room 700 City Hall Annex
Saint Paul, Mn. 55102
(612) 298-4402      

My organization not only doesn;t agree with what I think or say -
they're frightened by it!