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From: andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews)
Newsgroups: net.followup
Subject: Re: Apology for EXPO posting.
Message-ID: <353@ubc-cs.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 6-Aug-86 14:33:54 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug  6 14:33:54 1986
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Reply-To: andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews)
Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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[Don't worry about Jim Robinson, he and I are sparring-partners from way
 back and he's mostly harmless. :-)]

In article <2368@hcrvx2.UUCP> jimr@hcrvx2.UUCP (Jim Robinson) writes:
>Not only do they sell South African wines, but also Russian vodka!!!!
>When will these horrors cease :-)?

     I would believe JBR's comments along these lines (of which he's made
many before) if he truly believed in doing anything about *either* South
Africa *or* Russia.  In fact he uses this feeble line of argument to
support taking no action at all.

>Actually, there is something to be said for keeping the socialists (note 
>the lack of quotation marks) out. Also, in my opinion it would be more
>fair to compare the NDP (Canada's socialist party) to Britain's Labour
>party. If for no other reason than both parties are basically the political
>arms of the labour unions.

     Which shows that JBR has not much understanding of either the NDP or
Britain's Labour party.  We can excuse this since he's basically an American.
Most NDPers say they're "social democrats".  What's ironic is that the
coalition of right-wing opportunists which is now in government calls
itself the "Social Credit" ("Socred") party.

>What is really kinda interesting is that the leader of the provincial
>socialist [sic] party is *not* telling people to boycott EXPO. In fact, he
>says that even though he was against it, now that it's a reality it
>behooves British Columbians to try to make it as much a success as
>possible. 

     Actually, as JBR knows, he's just doing the politically expedient
thing.  The Socreds knew that since the BC electorate was dumb enough
to elect *them*, they would be dumb enough to be dazzled by a money-losing
world fair and support it to the last.  The NDP leader knows this too,
so doesn't want to be seen as being against it.  This is called politics.

     I think JBR is just frustrated since he lives in a province run by
the Liberals and the NDP now, and he doesn't have a chance to vote for his
beloved Socreds anymore.  Too bad the rest of the world doesn't have access
to the newsgroup can.politics, wherein we discuss all kinds of things like
this.  However, we should probably not turn net.followup into another
can.politics.

--Jamie.
...!seismo!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews
"What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh"