Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!think!husc6!harvard!cmcl2!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: net.graphics Subject: HP-9000 vs. Sun 3/160C Message-ID: <2406@phri.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Aug-86 10:50:15 EDT Article-I.D.: phri.2406 Posted: Fri Aug 1 10:50:15 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Aug-86 22:12:59 EDT Reply-To: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 35 The intent of this posting is to elicit "compare and contrast the HP-9020C and Sun 3/160C" type of responses. Since that is a very broad question, let me give a bit of background. We've recently invested fairly heavily in Sun-3 hardware (14 workstations including a 3/160C and 2 file 3/180 servers). A new faculty member who will be coming this September has an old H/P workstation which he loves but won't be able to take with him and would like to get a new HP-9020C (I think that's the right model number) to replace it. The application he is most interested in is drawing perspective space-filling molecular models. The HP has the (not at all insignificant) advantage of running HP-Basic. This fellow has a lot of software that he has written in HP-Basic. Since he has spent the past several years writing in that language so that's what he knows and likes best. HP-Basic has some very powerful extentions for doing the kind of graphics he wants to do. He's afraid that having to learn C and the Sun graphics packages (GKS, etc) will be more effort than it's worth -- he may be right. The Sun has the advantage that it is well integrated into the rest of the network. Also, since it has a standard bus (VME), you are not tied to one particular vendor for expansion. Also, I suspect that C or Fortran on the Sun will be a lot faster than Basic on the HP (although, HP-Basic is no speed slouch). Of course, the Sun equipment is already here; the HP system will require spending another $40k or so. As you see, there are strong arguments on both sides. Any insights which might help us decide between the two machines would be greatly appreciated. -- Roy Smith, {allegra,philabs}!phri!roy System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016