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From: henry@mit-trillian.UUCP
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Subject: Re: UUCP -> BITNET transfer?
Message-ID: <847@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14-Jul-86 18:23:37 EDT
Article-I.D.: mit-tril.847
Posted: Mon Jul 14 18:23:37 1986
Date-Received: Tue, 15-Jul-86 04:49:41 EDT
References: <1003@tesla.UUCP> <521@ukecc.UUCP> <533@helm.UUCP>
Reply-To: henry@athena.mit.edu (Henry Mensch)
Organization: The People's Republic of Cambridge
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In article <533@helm.UUCP> dave@helm.UUCP (David Goldblatt) writes:
>To send mail to BITNET from UUCP, simply
>pick your favorite path to psuvax1!<BITNET node>.BITNET - example:
>               ...!ihnp4!psuvax1!ACCOUNT@CLVM.BITNET

For those of you whose mailers get "confused" by the combination of "!"
and "@" syntaxes, psuvax1 also accepts addresses of the following form:

...!allegra!psuvax1!MITVMA.BITNET!S19984

where you can replace MITVMA with any BITNET hostname and S19984 with
any valid userid on the BITNET host you're mailing to.

>To go from BITNET to UUCP on a VM system is REALLY easy; to send mail to
>UUCP you do this:    MAIL <user>@<node>.UUCP

Now wait a minute!  Not everybody runs MAILER (particularly when you
are talking about VAX/VMS and Unix BITNET sites which run non-RSCS
networking software), and not everybody at VM sites uses the same exec
to send mail.  People at those places which don't have MAILER should
create a file with appropriate "To:", "From:" and "Subject:" lines.  An
example follows:

To: henry@mit-athena.UUCP
From: S19984@MITVMA
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 86 18:16:20 EDT
Subject: this is a test
<this line should be blank>
Now type your message here.

This file should be punched (class M) to MAILER at PSUVAX1.  psuvax1
takes care of the rest of the details.  

>Your mailer should automagically route the file to PSUVAX1 or another
>gateway, and perform the path writing, etc. for you.  .  .  .

Your mailer should only route the file to psuvax1.  At psuvax1, the
mailer runs the UUCP pathalias program and thus will expand the UUCP
path for you accordingly.
 
>Mail can be sent to the ARPANet the same way, just tack on .ARPA when going
>to psuvax1..  I love smart mailers! :-)

Wrong, wrong, wrong!  The Internet gateway is wiscvm.bitnet
(wiscvm.wisc.edu).  If your BITNET mailer doesn't support mail to
.ARPA, .EDU, .GOV, .MIL, and .ORG you will have to create your message
and imbed BSMTP commands in it.  You will then have to punch the
resulting file to SMTPUSER at WISCVM.  This isn't quite so easy as
sending mail through the UUCP gateway; you will probably want to write
an EXEC/shell script/whatever-you-need-to-write if you plan on doing
this often.

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