Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!brl-adm!caip!lll-crg!micropro!edg From: edg@micropro.UUCP (Ed Greenberg) Newsgroups: net.mail Subject: Re: Re: Gateway to AT&T Mail Message-ID: <288@micropro.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Jul-86 13:44:00 EDT Article-I.D.: micropro.288 Posted: Mon Jul 21 13:44:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Jul-86 00:32:10 EDT References: <633@codas.ATT.UUCP> <123@einode.UUCP> <657@codas.ATT.UUCP> Reply-To: edg@micropro.UUCP () Organization: MicroPro Int'l Corp., San Rafael, CA Lines: 30 In article <657@codas.ATT.UUCP> mikel@codas.ATT.UUCP (Mikel Manitius) writes: >If you're paying for long distance data lines, and/or communications >costs, that's one thing, but if another site is charging you for access >to them, then that is what I disagree with. >-- > Mikel Manitius @ AT&T-IS Altamonte Springs, FL Oh, come on now! ATTMAIL isn't a "SITE" It's a for-profit electronic mail carrier. It happens that a feature of such a service is to pick up and deliver mail to Un*x machines running uucp and mail. Wunnderful! If I send mail to ATTMAIL, they're going to charge me a buck or so to pass it on, right? So, is it all so unreasonable to say to the net, "NO! YOU CAN'T RUN UP MY ATTMAIL BILL. I WON'T PAY FOR YOUR TRAFFIC IN REAL HARD DOLLARS CHARGED TO MY COST CENTER." One of the reasons that MicroPro probably will not connect to ATTMAIL is that we have no way of keeping somebody from mailing to micropro!attmail and thus foisting their mail charges off on us. Would a gentlemens agreement work? Probably, but only among the gentlemen. Does anybody out there have a method for a site without a source license to pass mail between all it's neighbors EXCEPT attmail? We run honey-dan-ber so we have the source for that, but others (SCO? MicroPort? etc.) won't even have that. This is going to be quite an issue, isn't it. -edg