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From: mikel@codas.ATT.UUCP (Mikel Manitius)
Newsgroups: net.mail
Subject: Re: Gateway to AT&T Mail
Message-ID: <691@codas.ATT.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 25-Jul-86 00:38:47 EDT
Article-I.D.: codas.691
Posted: Fri Jul 25 00:38:47 1986
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Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Altamonte Springs, FL
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>>Personally, as far as I'm concerned, no UUCP site should accept mail
>>from "attmail" unless it is allowed to return mail through "attmail"
>>for free.  A site that expects others to take its mail for free but
>>charges the same site for replies is a parasite, plain and simple.
>>The fact that it is a for-profit parasite makes it worse.

I agree.

> This discussion is getting more and more bizarre by the minute.  Do people
> read any more, or do they simply prefer to flame without using their brains?
> "AT&T Mail" offers UUCP transmission for electronic messages between
> subscribing hosts. Usually, this is implemented as a one-hop:
> attmail!subscribinghost!user. If anything, this is a convenience for hosts
> with UUCP access, so users can avoid having to dialup their mailboxes,
> as is necessary for MCI Mail, Compuserve, EasyLink, and other EMail services.
> *could* put an arbitrary UUCP path after the subscriber host, but remember

Don't *YOU* read anymore? The majority of AT&T Mail's trafic comes from
online users. Yes, users that login to AT&T Mail and run a mail service
user interface to read and generate their mail. UUCP is just a small
part of AT&T Mail. There is also a package that will allow your AT&T Pc6300
(or clone) to communicate with, and download mail from, AT&T Mail. As
the manual describes it, the reason UUCP links exist, is so that a site
with a large concentration of users does not have to register all of the
users with individual accounts on AT&T Mail. The manual also states that
you may wish to take precautions so that other sites do not submit jobs
via your machine, which would dirrectly cost your account.

However these links do exist, and will probably always exist as long as
there are UUCP connections to AT&T Mail. My argument not against these
links, it is simply that if you want to take advantage of the services
offered by AT&T Mail you should be paying form them yourself, and not
submitting jobs through other sites. Regardless whether you like the
idea AT&T Mail charing or not.

I have an account on AT&T Mail (!mmanitius), and all mail that arrives
there will be forwarded to me at mikel@codas. Yes, "codas" is registerd.
And while I may not mind seeing a once-in-a-while message bounce though
(ie: out of despiration), I will complain to unauthorized abusers, which
I beleive ought to have their own link.

> Hon, "AT&T Mail" doesn't seek any connectivity on the "net".  In fact,
> as far as this issue goes, it's a fair bet that they'd be relieved if
> the informal UUCP world didn't exist at all.

Since when did you become a spokesperson for AT&T Mail?

(Disclamier:  I am not a spokesperson of any sort, I am siply stating
 the facts as I happen to see them to be correct. However I do not
 make statements and assumptions about the intentions of the managment
 of AT&T Mail)
-- 
			Mikel Manitius @ AT&T-IS Altamonte Springs, FL
			...{seismo!akgua|ihnp4|cbosgd|mcnc}!codas!mikel