Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!caip!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!hplabs!hao!hull From: hull@hao.UUCP (Howard Hull) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Copy protect methods & paranoia Message-ID: <169@hao.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Jul-86 18:33:30 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.169 Posted: Sun Jul 27 18:33:30 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Jul-86 04:42:23 EDT References: <236@neoucom.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR Boulder, CO Lines: 42 Summary: writing on write protected disks In article <236@neoucom.UUCP>, wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes: > > Now the bad part is that the algorithm that E-A uses is real slow > and rather unreliable. I've been though several copies of both > programs. It seems like the disks break after 20 to 30 boots of > the programs. > > It looks like they decode some part of the program and switch its > physical location on the disk every time the protected program is > run. It also looks like the funky blocks are not noted in the file > system as used blocks which makes them vulnerable for trashing by > legitimate writes to the disk. So you propose a scheme that wants to write on a write protected disk. Of course if it can't, it won't make any difference, since the disk will be the same as before. If that's true, why even try unless the object is related to something you expect the writers to be doing that you don't want them to do. In that case, I'd like to hear what you think that is. All of my EA disks have been write protected since the day I got them, and I have not yet had a failure to boot. I am not tempted to write on them (With respect to Preferences, 'Ve haf ozer vays'.) ***PaRaNoIa On*** However, I ^have^ wondered when some Micro maker was going to get around to rigging things so that there was a secret way his "in" SDC's could write to a physically write protected disk. This could be used to - zap a disk which had been specified as both copy protected and required in print to be "configured to read only" [Read: to prevent tampering] "in order that the software may function" - in the event that it had been, er, ^violated^. This might be done by a software packager that uses the "lazer burned pit pattern" method of copy protection, for instance, or by one of those outfits that offers packages that ensure that nobody can read your developmental software while you are away from your machine. Now then, since the Amiga does not have a "legitimate floppy disk controller" as such, one wonders just how soft the system is... If the write protect tab opens a switch in series with the write-head drive current, that'd be good enough for me. If the tab only goes to a switch that is wired to an XOR gate, that's another matter entirely... ***PaRaNoIa Off*** (I hope). Howard Hull [If yet unproven concepts are outlawed in the range of discussion... ...Then only the deranged will discuss yet unproven concepts] {ucbvax!hplabs | decvax!noao | mcvax!seismo | ihnp4!seismo} !hao!hull