Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!seismo!caip!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: Re: Apple //GS Message-ID: <533@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Jul-86 15:17:47 EDT Article-I.D.: cbmvax.533 Posted: Tue Jul 15 15:17:47 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jul-86 22:27:08 EDT References: <2685@caip.RUTGERS.EDU> Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 48 > > No matter what they do, it will have to have a compatibility mode that > is indistinguishable from the current IIe botch. In order to keep the > cost down, the new mode will probably extend the IIe botch, rather than > do it 'right' (whatever that means to you personally!) But to compete > with the Amiga and the ST520/1040, they will have to have something > pretty impressive. I wonder if it can be done. Full backwards > compatibility can me *expensive* to maintain. Apple won't get rich just > selling upgrades to people who already have II series machines. So they > will have to have something that is cost/performance competitive with the > Amiga and Atari machines to capture new users. But if it won't make > them rich, you can bet they won't do it. > > Given those constraints, I wonder if it can be done... > (Does anybody remember the Apple III? It did a lot of things 'right', > and it was a commercial failure.) > > Rick Thomas I'd expect that the compatibility should be simple to maintain -- the current Apple IIwhatever video circuitry is simple enough to occupy only part of a common chip, and any new circuitry could share some of the old logic (video shift registers, etc.) without becoming too crippled. The main thing that I wonder about, however, is the most rumored resolution on the new thing -- some 760x500x7 or so pixels. It might make some sense to address memory on byte boundaries (1 byte == 1 pixel), but of course this would require 256K just for video memory. Though that's only $16-$32 or so in memory chips, so it might be possible. The 65816 processor is weak compared to the competition's 68000 series, so I'd imagine if they didn't go to byte-pixel addressing, they'd have to have some hardware assist to get any kind of video performance out of the thing in the higher resolution mode. Though it sounds like Aplle is back on the right track; I wouldn't expect them to settle for a 640x200 only display at this point. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh "I don't feel safe in this world no more, I don't want to die in a nuclear war, I want to sail away to a distant shore And live like an ape man." -The Kinks These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they be yours too. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/