Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!dlc From: dlc@lanl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Running in place Message-ID: <5424@lanl.ARPA> Date: Sat, 19-Jul-86 14:31:03 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl.5424 Posted: Sat Jul 19 14:31:03 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Jul-86 22:26:21 EDT References: <867@unirot.UUCP> <804@tekig4.UUCP> Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 28 > >This machine bears more than a > >superficial resemblance to the original Lisa of January 1983. Sure, > >it costs less, and there are more applications available, but its > >basic characteristics don't show the 3 1/2 years that have passed > >since the Lisa's introduction. > If you're a businessman, marketplace success is the ONLY > yardstick. I saw a Lisa demonstrated in 1983. The slightest deviation from the script of the demo crashed the system. At any time, a 30-second "disk re-organization" could interrupt your work. They didn't mention Clascal, or any language for developing your own programs. Only a word processor, project manager, and two draw/paint type programs were available. There was not even a terminal emulator. The disks were even wierder than the 3-1/2 inch format on the Macintosh, and the media was unavailable at a price double the price-per- density of other 5-1/4 inch media, and four times the per-disk price. The hard disk was slower than 8 inch floppies (so are 5-1/4 inch floppies on Big Blue's machines.) The only thing the Lisa had going for it was a bit- mapped screen and maybe the mouse. It was not just expensive, it didn't work. The only answer one could reach, for business or personal reasons, was no. A year later, the Macintosh was cheaper, although still over-priced. But it worked. And it had a language (Microsoft BASIC) in which a terminal emulator was written (MacTEP.) So there was a foundation for growth in the Macintosh. The only reason to ever have a Lisa was to develop Macintosh software, and Apple never marketed that application through their dealers. But even the Lisa was not the unmitigated disaster the Apple /// was. I've heard that after about a year, Apple ///'s began to pop out chips from the mother-board with such force they hit the top cover of the cabinet.