Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!brian From: brian@ut-sally.UUCP (Brian H. Powell) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: _Debugger trap failure Message-ID: <5401@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Jul-86 18:55:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.5401 Posted: Thu Jul 24 18:55:26 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Jul-86 21:51:43 EDT Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 29 Keywords: MacDB, What Apple meant to say was... I was just reading the MacsBug version 5.1 documentation that came in Supplement Volume I, Issue 3 (the March/June 1986 supplement). I noticed on one of the pages that they don't want anyone using Line-1111 traps anymore to break into a debugger. (They will interfere with the 68881.) (And by the way, this warning was in the December/February supplement also, but I didn't notice it then.) Fine, I thought. I am always ready to follow the Apple Guidelines. I'll just change this "dc.w $ff00" statement to the approved "_Debugger" trap. Assemble; link. Run. Boom. A bomb box (with a debugger installed!) ID=12. The old dsCoreErr. Unimplemented trap. My debugger was virtually helpless. Reboot. You see, Apple doesn't really have an $a9ff (_debugger) trap. They fake it in the debugger. I think it only works with the new 5.* series MacsBugs. I was using a Mac+ with MacNub A debugged by a 128K Mac running MacDB A. I'm using a (Darin Adler) NoQuiche system, version 3.2. Conclusion: The documentation is misleading. Just thought you'd want to know. Since 1) I don't plan to have the debug trap in the final code, and 2) I don't have a 68881 yet, this isn't really a problem. I'd much rather use MacDB than MacsBug since I have two macs, so I'll continue using the Line-1111 traps to debug. I just think Apple should have qualified the warning. Brian H. Powell UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!brian ARPA: brian@sally.UTEXAS.EDU