Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!utcsstat!spence From: spence@utcsstat.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.pc,net.math.stat Subject: SAS/PC, PowerStat, and UNIX|STAT Message-ID: <2282@utcsstat.uucp> Date: Wed, 9-Jul-86 13:48:19 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.2282 Posted: Wed Jul 9 13:48:19 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 9-Jul-86 17:08:24 EDT Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 34 Xref: utcs net.micro.pc:8906 net.math.stat:260 Gary Perlman has recently compared some aspects of SAS/PC, PowerStat, and his own UNIX|STAT in this news group. UNIX|STAT is unquestionably the cheapest, and SAS/PC is the most expensive. But at current prices can Gary provide support for UNIX|STAT? Will he mail out updates to all users? Will he provide telephone support during business hours? Is his (optional) documentation typeset and bound? How extensive is the documentation? And so on. It's tough to deliver lots of service when it's a hobby and not a business. In my opinion SAS/PC, PowerStat, and UNIX|STAT all have a niche in the marketplace. SAS is a very capable system, but on the PC it is large, slow, and somewhat awkward (not to mention very expensive once you add it all up). And you NEED a hard disk (realistically 20Mb+, if you're planning on doing anything else with your computer). You also NEED 512K, or more, and SAS Institute recommends an 8087. For use in teaching, it is a bit unwieldy in the PC environment. Overall, SAS/PC is a bit of a disappointment on an 8088/86 machine. Maybe when the 386 machines come out ... PowerStat and UNIX|STAT are much more economical in terms of required equipment (and price). They can both run on vanilla PCs with 256K and two floppies. Although PowerStat isn't quite as cheap as UNIX|STAT, it does much more, comes with a 524 page typeset manual, and has the the best user interface of any statistics package on the IBM PC. We've tried PowerStat here at the University of Toronto in several classes: students find it very easy to learn and use. Much more so than SAS (which we formerly used on the mainframe). And I know of people at several other schools (in Canada, the US, and Australia) who have had similar experiences. I'd like to see more good statistical software for PCs--I don't think that we should sit back and let SAS Institute do it all (good as they are). We need innovative approaches like Gary Perlman's UNIX|STAT and Analytical Engineering's PowerStat. Ian Spence {allegra,decvax,seismo,utzoo,watmath}!utcs!utcsstat!spence