Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!clarke From: clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: Followup on "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex" copyright problem Message-ID: <3128@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Jul-86 09:34:57 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsri.3128 Posted: Fri Jul 18 09:34:57 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Jul-86 09:42:13 EDT References: <4652@sun.uucp> <1986Jul2.233539.3816@utcs.uucp> <464@hadron.UUCP> <3112@utcsri.UUCP> <5175@sun.uucp> Reply-To: clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) Distribution: net Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 36 Summary: In article <5175@sun.uucp> chuq@sun.uucp (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: [about something I wrote, though the reference seems to have been dropped] >> .... The *physical correspondence* >> belongs to the addressee, but the *copyright* belongs to the addressee. So ^^^^^^^^^ >> Niven should have been asked for his permission for this too! > >If you read the text of the original letter, Niven GAVE permission by >telling me to tell Ken what his thoughts were.... >This is an amazingly silly nitpick, by the way. (As well as containing an amazingly silly mistake, in which I typed "addressee" for "sender".) Sorry -- it wasn't meant as a nitpick, exactly because Niven had encouraged the publication of his letter. It was meant as a point of information, the amazing triviality of which was perhaps offset by its obvious relevance to a discussion of copyright. Perhaps not. Didn't mean to offend. >> Secondly, one frequently sees biographers (etc.) thanking owners of letters >> from dead biographees for allowing the letters to be quoted. Do the rules >> change when the author is dead? > >No. After a period of time, it all falls into the public domain. If the >letters are donated to a library or some such, so do the rights. There was >recently a HUGE volume of letters by John W. Campbell, Jr. published, and a >great deal of time and effort was spent securing rights from Conde Nast (the >publisher he worked for) and his widow to do so. When someone dies, rights >are transferred to their estate just like every other property. I'd complain about how trivial this is, too, except that I find it interesting. Thanks. -- Jim Clarke -- Dept. of Computer Science, Univ. of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 (416) 978-4058 {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsri!clarke