Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!pyramid!decwrl!sun!chuq From: chuq@sun.uucp (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.news,net.legal Subject: Re: Copyright Message-ID: <5364@sun.uucp> Date: Wed, 23-Jul-86 03:09:26 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.5364 Posted: Wed Jul 23 03:09:26 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Jul-86 01:42:18 EDT References: <2518@umcp-cs.UUCP> <404@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd Lines: 26 Xref: mnetor net.news:1938 net.legal:2669 > When we were taught about copyright law in library school, one of the > first things that we were told is that saying it's so doesn't make it > so. This claim by publishers doesn't have the force of law behind it, > and can be ignored. Brief excerpts (with attribution) used for > educational or illustrative purposes are perfectly legal, as long as > they don't steal potential income from the publisher. In short, the > above claim by publishers is both silly and unenforceable. All you say is true (more or less) except the last. It is not both silly and unenforcable. If the copyright restriction was not there, then there would be no way they could enforce copyright. Even if the restrictions go too far (which they do) they give the publisher room to fight a violation in court if it comes to that. Since 'fair use' is such a grey area, the only real way to deal with it is to restrict all rights and let the court decide fair use on a case by case basis. chuq -- Chuq Von Rospach chuq%plaid@sun.COM CompuServe: 73317,635 {decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!sun!plaid!chuq O how they cling and wrangle, some who claim Of Brahamana and recluse the honoured name! For, quarrelling, each to his view they claim, Such folk see only one side of a thing. -- Buddha -- The Elephant and the Blind Men