Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!hplabs!hplabsc!taylor From: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) Newsgroups: net.news.sa,net.news.adm,net.wanted Subject: Re: Looking for information on PUBLIC ACCESS USENET sites ... Message-ID: <493@hplabsc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Jul-86 10:52:17 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsc.493 Posted: Wed Jul 23 10:52:17 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Jul-86 03:26:46 EDT References: <867@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> <935@tekig5.UUCP> Reply-To: taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 40 Summary: They're better, not worse! Xref: mnetor net.news.sa:252 net.news.adm:599 net.wanted:3501 Pete Lancashire writes: > >Now I even have to question the future of USENET, what do the big sites >think of public access ? I as a paying customer at Tektronix and soon at >home (not only a node but as one who will be feeding at least 4 other >sites) just can't feel at ease with the local cbbs type junk that could >end up on the net, it's bad enough now. Sorry Pete, but I don't think you understand what is meant by a public access site... First off, there is no 'law' that people who turn out to be drips can't be tossed off. In fact, the peer pressure of the rest of the community (i.e. us) should be enough to force people to exhibit at least SOME socially acceptable behaviours. IT seems oddly common that people associate public access with complete anarchy. It's not. Secondly, in my experience, public access systems are VERY GOOD for the net - it gives us a wider cross-section of the population (right now we only see postings from people who LIKE computers, who WORK with computers, who SPEND MONEY on computers, etc etc). The more different and diverse views we can have on the system, even at the price of increased traffic, the better! Thirdly, I've also found that the public access machines have far more interesting internal conferences than the usenet - for example, on the Well there is a conference on Computer Books, and among the active participants are three top-selling authors, a columnist, a couple of regular writers for various 'rags, and a publisher. The quality of the discussion is amazing. Especially when compare to such dreck as 'net.legal'. My conclusion then, is that I STRONGLY support free systems as a way of diversifying the network and enriching all of us. Let's hear it for the non computer types!! --- Dave Taylor moderator: mod.comp-soc and mod.conferences