Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!elsie!imsvax!ted From: ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.origins Subject: A reasonably sane man doesn't believe in time travel Message-ID: <587@imsvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 3-Aug-86 21:22:45 EDT Article-I.D.: imsvax.587 Posted: Sun Aug 3 21:22:45 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Aug-86 01:46:36 EDT Organization: IMS Inc, Rockville MD Lines: 40 Xref: mnetor net.physics:2531 net.origins:1959 Basically, the idea of time travel does violence to any reasonable notion of free will. I fail to see any conceptual difference between traveling forward or backwards in time; the possibility of someone in the future sending anything back to us more or less IMPLIES the possibility of us seeing the future and vice versa. The possibility of seeing into the future implies that there is something there to see, basically unalterable, and written out like the pages of a book, essentially what you would call predestination. The idea of predestination should be hateful to any rational person and, in a way, it contradicts the law known as Occam's razor. Why should humans or any other creature have intelligence or any capability of analyzing data and making decisions if the future is laid out for them in an unalterable manner? Given predestination, intelligence simply isn't NEEDED, and should not have evolved. It shouldn't exist. Similar considerations force me to disbelieve the possibility of any being in our universe being omnipotent i.e. I believe the universe cannot contain anything bigger than IT. An omnipotent being would necessarily be omniscient and would be able to see into the future (if he COULDN'T, that would be something he couldn't do, and that contradicts the definition of omnipotence). Aside from being able to see what I figured to be doing tommorrow at 5:00PM, and there being nothing I could do to alter it, he would also be able to see what HE figured to be doing at 5:00 PM tommorrow, and there would be nothing HE could do about it either. Therefore, I regard the idea of omnipotence as a one-word contradiction of terms. That doesn't mean that I am an atheist or a total evolutionist, merely that I believe that ALL beings in this universe must live within certain limits, time being one of these.