Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!gatech!akgua!usl!elg From: elg@usl.UUCP (Eric Lee Green) Newsgroups: net.periphs,net.micro,net.wanted Subject: Re: update on **real** 19200 CRT Message-ID: <825@usl.UUCP> Date: Sun, 20-Jul-86 14:16:20 EDT Article-I.D.: usl.825 Posted: Sun Jul 20 14:16:20 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Jul-86 18:42:46 EDT References: <109@vixie.UUCP> <65@winfree.UUCP> <5140@sun.uucp> Reply-To: elg@usl.UUCP (Eric Lee Green) Organization: USL, Lafayette, LA Lines: 24 Keywords: Brain Damage, Gosling Emacs, Wyse-50 Summary: It's the fault of Gosling Emacs, not of the Wyse-50 Xref: mnetor net.periphs:469 net.micro:5638 net.wanted:3486 >> Paul -- Stay away from the Wyse-50. I bought about a half dozen at my former >> job, and loved them dearly (especially the keyboards!) until I started running >> Emacs on them... then I found out the hitch. The Wyse-50 emulates the >> Televideo and similar terminals, and eats a screen location every time it >> changes attribute modes on the screen. So, for example, an emacs mode line >> done in inverse video will get horribly trashed as time goes on... rewriting >> the screen with sort of fix it, but you LOSE a location on the screen (it >> shows up as a blank) every time you change from normal to inverse to whatever. This person is obviously using an older version of Gosling Emacs, which suffers from a bad case of BRAIN DAMAGE (almost as big a case of B.D. as the people who invented "magic cookie" attributes in the first place). We were running Gosling Emacs on our Pyramids, with a terminal room full of TVI910s, and it did the same thing to them. Switch to GNU Emacs. It may be big, but at least it handles non-VT100 terminals the correct way. We have no problems with TVI910s and GNU Emacs. In fact, Gosling Emacs is history at this site... the sysadmin zapped it off of disk, installed GNU, and our troubles were over. -- -- Computing from the Bayous, -- Eric Green {akgua,ut-sally}!usl!elg (Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191, Lafayette, LA 70509)