Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!brl-adm!brl-smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists? Message-ID: <2164@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: Sat, 12-Jul-86 12:02:03 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-smok.2164 Posted: Sat Jul 12 12:02:03 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 13-Jul-86 03:08:56 EDT References: <1970@brl-smoke.ARPA> <320@rtech.UUCP> <2064@brl-smoke.ARPA> <14816@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.women:11247 net.sci:1225 In article <14816@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Wimpy Math Grad Student) writes: >This is amusing, Doug, highly amusing. So you realize AA as being unfair >in sense X and thus ought to be rejected, while telling the potential ben- >ificiaries to put up with harrassment and other unfairnesses in sense Y? That is an attempt to put words in my mouth that I never said nor implied. I have NOT told anybody I think they should put up with harrassment and other unfairness. I even suggested some specific actions that might be appropriate to counter them. It would be truly amazing (if I hadn't seen so much of it before) how many people simply cannot understand what someone else is saying if it differs from what they themselves already believe. This is partly due to the educational deficiencies I mentioned in my first comment on this topic. There was an excellent discussion of this entitled "Why Johnny Can't Think" as one of the Ford Hall Forum talks. I think a reprint is available; if anybody is interested, send me mail and I'll see if I can find out how to get a copy. Gwyn@BRL.ARPA