Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!brl-adm!brl-smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci,net.politics Subject: Re: property rights Message-ID: <2249@brl-smoke.ARPA> Date: Tue, 15-Jul-86 10:11:58 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-smok.2249 Posted: Tue Jul 15 10:11:58 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jul-86 05:24:55 EDT References: <1970@brl-smoke.ARPA> <320@rtech.UUCP> <2064@brl-smoke.ARPA> <627@mhuxr.UUCP> <2165@brl-smoke.ARPA> <860@whuts.UUCP> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) ) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.women:11325 net.sci:1250 net.politics:17371 In article <860@whuts.UUCP> orb@whuts.UUCP (Tim Sevener) writes: >When it comes to a conflict between *individuals* basic civil liberties >and the rights of property, many of both schools show their true colors >by defending the rights of property. Which hardly demonstrates a >valueing of anything other than greed and selfishness. The counter-argument is that property rights are essential to individual rights, since property is produced by individual effort and one cannot be free if one is not free to determine for oneself how to dispose of the product of one's work. >This should hardly be news when one of Ayn Rand's major works is >titled "The Virtue of Selfishness". Perhaps you should read this to see (a) what her definition of "selfishness" is (it's different from yours) and (b) why she considers it a virtue. You don't suppose the title was an accident, do you?