Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!princeton!allegra!alice!ark From: ark@alice.UucP (Andrew Koenig) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci,net.politics Subject: Re: Libertarianism, Objectivism and Liberty Message-ID: <5795@alice.uUCp> Date: Tue, 15-Jul-86 12:43:16 EDT Article-I.D.: alice.5795 Posted: Tue Jul 15 12:43:16 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jul-86 05:46:12 EDT References: <860@whuts.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 13 Xref: watmath net.women:11329 net.sci:1256 net.politics:17375 > I think we have already seen that both Libertarians and Objectivists > do not really value *liberty* when we consider their opposition to > citizens rights to free speech at public shopping malls. Yes, we know you do. You've said it many times. And you're still wrong. I have never seen such a thing as a *public* shopping mall. Shopping malls are *private* places. There is simply no difference between the rights I have in a shopping mall and rights I have when you have invited me into your home. If I say something in your home that you don't like, you have every right to kick me out. If I say something in a mall that the owner doesn't like, the owner has every right to kick me out.