Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!aplcen!jhunix!ins_apmj From: ins_apmj@jhunix.UUCP (Patrick M Juola) Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Re: privatization of education Message-ID: <3176@jhunix.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Jul-86 12:42:10 EDT Article-I.D.: jhunix.3176 Posted: Tue Jul 15 12:42:10 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jul-86 06:04:55 EDT References: <3719@decwrl.DEC.COM> <136@cci632.UUCP> Reply-To: ins_apmj@jhunix.ARPA (Patrick M Juola) Organization: Erisian Liberation Front Lines: 46 I have real problems dealing with the idea of privatization of education. Let me explain my reasoning. All the arguments for privatization assume for a starting point that private schools are somehow intrinsically "better" than public. (I disagree, citing my high school, Boise High, in Boise, Idaho, as the best high school in the Boise Metropolitan area, but I will accept this axiom for the sake of argument.) In any area there are good students and bad students. This should be self-evident. The good students will do well [almost] anywhere, the bad ones will require a lot of special help to do "well." Educators are still trying to find out what separates the two groups, but they have shown strong correlations with a students "intelligence" (*not* I.Q.), parents' attitude toward schooling, and parents' educational level. (which is why BHS is so good -- it draws the college professors' kids.) In other words, at least one of the reasons that private students do so well is the attitude of their parents. A parent who is willing to pay the additional cost over and above property taxes probably has a good attitude about school. A parent who is *able* to pay is probably wealthy[-ier] and therefore pays a disproportionate share of property taxes (which are the main income source for public schools.) Now, by "privatizing" the school system, the children of parents who a) can't afford or b) don't want to pay for [expensive] private education can't are being punished, since the money is no longer there for the public schools. Yes, I admit, I'm talking about a subsidy. I think education is a better reason to pay the government than ICBMs or welfare. In an ideal universe, if everyone were well-enough educated, crime would drop to nil and unemployment would be minimal. If you don't want to have to pay to educate other people, I don't want to pay to have the FBI protect your area. There's a limit to how far we can take property rights aka. selfishness. One other argument about privatization. Students also do "better" in a class/school where there are bright students. If you skim off all the cream, so to speak, to the private schools, the schools will tend to become stratified (Everyone knows that A is a better school than B, which is better than C, which is better than P.S. 109), and everyone except the children in the best school will suffer for it. The best teachers will tend to go to A rather than B, etc, so the weaker students will miss out on the teachers they really *need* to have. The best and the brightest will do well in any situation; it's the middle ground that need the help. -- seismo!umcp-cs \ Pat Juola ihnp4!whuxcc > !jhunix!ins_apmj Hopkins Maths allegra!hopkins / "I'm kind of tired. I was up all night trying to round off infinity."