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From: mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (Damballah Wedo)
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists?
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Date: Wed, 16-Jul-86 13:16:19 EDT
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> Doug Gwyn
> >Me
> >but that is not the primary intent. That is to permit this *large* class
> >of citizens to claim their rightful place at the table of power, by removing
> >the barriers that have been built all around them.
> 
> Nobody has a "right" to power over others.  It is doubly wrong to claim
> such a "right" on the basis of race or sex.

I did not say power "over" others, I said "rightful place at the table of power."
The rights (read power) of a minority are guaranteed by the law in this country.
You can see the difference, can't you?

> >We happen to think it works fairly well. I think it is up to those who
> >disagree to put forth their own proposal for a replacement.
> 
> I have proposed what needs to be done.  One aspect of that is that
> there is zero objective value in a particular statistical ethnic
> distribution as such.  There is great value in the recognition of
> and support for individual rights, but AA does not accomplish this
> and in fact is not consistent with it.

I must have missed your proposals. Please send them to me by mail, as the
article has expired here. As for "recognition and support of individual
rights," my article (the main points of which you do not respond to) 
talked about how AA's function is preventing discrimination from impeding
basic rights.
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