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From: jeffw@midas.UUCP (Jeff Winslow)
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Subject: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists?
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Date: Fri, 18-Jul-86 03:00:00 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 18 03:00:00 1986
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In article <638@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> (Dan Green) writes:

>In article <502@midas.UUCP> jeffw@midas.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) writes:
>>All very righteous and high-minded, but would you really feel just as
>>insulted if you were given a chance you didn't deserve as you would if
>>you were denied a chance you deserved? I sure wouldn't, and I would be
>>very skeptical of anyone else saying they would.
>
>   Would you?  I sure as hell wouldn't take a job that I wasn't qualified
>for.  You can't fool people for long if you're ignorant, and all you'll
>end up doing is making yourself look stupid.  Since this is a "why aren't
>there many (minority) so-and-so's" discussion, if you are a minority and
>you take a job that you are unqualified for, you not only make yourself
>look bad, you make your race look bad.  You get the old "see, I told you
>that we shouldn't have hired that (place your favorite minority here)! "

Maybe. But bright initially underqualified people have been known to learn
rapidly on the job. Or, try substituting "raise" for "chance" above and
read it again. I stand by my statement.

The only people that think an individual makes their race look bad are
those who think races can look bad to begin with.

							Jeff Winslow