Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!princeton!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.sci,net.politics Subject: Re: Nuclear power: Bernard Cohen, nuclear expert Message-ID: <534@gargoyle.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Jul-86 21:17:37 EDT Article-I.D.: gargoyle.534 Posted: Sat Jul 19 21:17:37 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Jul-86 04:20:48 EDT Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 70 Xref: watmath net.sci:1309 net.politics:17507 >Once again, please refer to "The Toxicity of Plutonium" and >"High-Level Radioactive Waste from Light-Water Reactors", both by >Bernard L. Cohen. They have various scenarios concerning purposeful >dispersal of both plutonium and radioactive wastes via various >dispersion methods, air, water, etc. The results indicate that the >threat is not that much more than from other common terrorist >materials. Continuing our survey of the scientific output of Bernard Cohen: The February 1979 *Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists* carried a critique by Professor Cohen of two articles which had appeared in a previous issue, one by Karl Z. Morgan on "Cancer and low level ionizing radiation" and one by J. Rotblat on "The risks for radiation workers" (Sept. 1978 *Bulletin*). Morgan is a professor in the School of Nuclear Engineering at Georgia Tech, a founder of the science of health physics, and was for about 30 years the director of the Health Physics Division of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. He has been chairman of the International Commission on Radiological Protection and the National Council on Radiation Protection. Here are excerpts from Morgan's response to Cohen's comments on his article: Bernard L. Cohen's comment is replete with errors and misrepresentation of fact. [Long discussion follows.] ... Finally, Cohen has marked me as one of "those dedicated to the destruction of nuclear energy." With this I do not agree. For the past 35 years I, as a health physicist, have devoted most of my professional life to the study of risks from exposure to ionizing radiation and of ways in which this risk can be made acceptably small in comparison to the expected benefits. I believe it is those Don Quixotes who choose every opportunity to underestimate the radiation risk and to discredit those who carry out epidemiology studies of populations exposed to radiation risks who are the strongest supporters of the anti-nuke movements.... Joseph Rotblat is emeritus professor of physics at the University of London, past president of the British Institute of Radiology and the British Hospital Physicists' Association, and was for many years the editor-in-chief of *Physics in Medicine and Biology*. Excerpts from his response to Cohen: My impression at reading Bernard L. Cohen's criticism of my article ... is that he did not bother to read my article carefully before putting pen to paper. Many of the points he raised are either answered in my article or are irrelevant.... ...Cohen's last point [is] that the cost of saving the lives of a few radiation workers is unjustified since it is so much higher than the cost of reducing other hazards. I think this shows his lack of understanding of the way society works. Society does not attach the same price tag to every activity. Often enormous sums are spent to combat a rare disease, while more prevalent diseases are neglected. I believe that this emphasizes the instinctive abhorrence of society to express the value of human life in terms of dollars or pounds sterling. Every human life is invaluable, and the fact that certain hazards, like crossing the street or smoking cigarettes, claim numerous lives is no justification for allowing another hazard to continue, if something can be done about it, even if it would result in a much smaller number of victims. All this brings to mind Oscar Wilde's definition of a cynic: "A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." The point of this exercise is not to prove that Cohen is wrong but to show that many of Cohen's claims are, to put it politely, controversial among his physicist colleagues and other scientists who are knowledgeable in the topics he discusses. Richard Carnes