Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!caip!andromeda!argus!ken From: ken@argus.UUCP (Kenneth Ng) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.sci Subject: Re: life of nuclear wastes Message-ID: <371@argus.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Jul-86 21:25:32 EDT Article-I.D.: argus.371 Posted: Mon Jul 21 21:25:32 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Jul-86 18:01:23 EDT References: <333@argus.UUCP> <523@gargoyle.UUCP> <2201@ihlpg.UUCP> Organization: NJ Inst of Tech., Newark NJ Lines: 39 Xref: lsuc net.politics:6910 net.sci:1056 In article <2201@ihlpg.UUCP>, tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) writes: > > [Kenneth Ng] > > >When inhaled, plutonium is more dangerous: 1300 milligrams to cause > > >cancer. > ----- > > [Richard Carnes] > > The figure I have read in various places is that < 1 *microgram* of > > Pu is sufficient to cause cancer if inhaled. It is less toxic if it > > is not lodged in lungs or absorbed into bloodstream. Something is > > amiss if published estimates differ by 6 or 7 orders of magnitude. > ----- > I suspect we have an apples and oranges comparison. In principle, > 1 ATOM of a radioactive substance is sufficient to cause cancer, albeit > with a low probability. Such statistics as that are meaningless for > comparison. Some standard is needed, such as the amount of a substance > inhaled that gives the inhalee a 50% chance of developing cancer within > five years, or some such standard. Without this, pro and anti nuclear > authors will use wildly divergent figures to back up their own biases. Gee that sounds familiar, remember a couple weeks ago I posted some values for various substances with the LD50 values? > Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL ihnp4!ihlpg!tan -- Kenneth Ng: Post office: NJIT - CCCC, Newark New Jersey 07102 uucp(for a while) ihnp4!allegra!bellcore!argus!ken soon uucp:ken@argus.cccc.njit.edu bitnet(prefered) ken@njitcccc.bitnet or ken@orion.bitnet soon bitnet: ken@orion.cccc.njit.edu (We are VERY slowly moving to RFC 920, kicking and screaming) Spock: "Captain, you are an excellent Starship Captain, but as a taxi driver, you need much to be desired." Savaak: "He's so....human" Spock: "No one is perfect"