Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!pyrnj!mirror!gabriel!inmet!authorplaceholder From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Re: Nuclear power: Petr Beckmann Message-ID: <26500030@inmet> Date: Mon, 21-Jul-86 12:45:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.26500030 Posted: Mon Jul 21 12:45:00 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jul-86 07:54:31 EDT References: <529@gargoyle.UUCP> Lines: 31 Nf-ID: #R:gargoyle.UUCP:-52900:inmet:26500030:000:1417 Nf-From: inmet.UUCP!janw Jul 21 12:45:00 1986 [mvs@meccts.UUCP ] >In article <529@gargoyle.UUCP> carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) writes: > Beckmann's chapter on coal contains a variety of confused assertions, > one of which is that "in the United States, for example, the > fertility rate has dropped below the `Zero Population Growth' level, > but its population is still expanding." ... >While I am not surprised that Mr. Ehrlich couldn't understand >this, I am a little surprised that you couldn't. It takes decades >for a change in the fertility rate to affect the population. Also >it is not only the birth rate that affects the population size. >If the average life time increases, obviously the population in- >creases. If memory serves, the fertility rate in the US is at >something like 1.8, this is below the ZPG level of 2.1. Therefore >as Dr. Beckman writes, now, the US population is increasing, and >it will continue to increase for some decades yet. >(I am not sure how much immigration is increasing the population >either. It might be a noticeable variable increasing the popula- >tion also.) Well, I'd say so! Legal immigration is half a million a year; illegal is, by *lowest* estimates, as much; probably twice or thrice as much. Natural growth is 0.6% (1984). Thus immigration is *at least* as important as natural growth. Beckmann is neither confused nor confusing on this; Carnes and Ehrlich are. Jan Wasilewsky