Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!ll-xn!cit-vax!amdahl!bnrmtv!timlee From: timlee@bnrmtv.UUCP (Timothy Lee) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci Subject: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists? Message-ID: <526@bnrmtv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Jul-86 17:18:26 EDT Article-I.D.: bnrmtv.526 Posted: Thu Jul 24 17:18:26 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Jul-86 07:24:06 EDT References: <1970@brl-smoke.ARPA> <320@rtech.UUCP> Organization: Bell Northern Research, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 28 Xref: watmath net.women:11582 net.sci:1364 > Well, then, be skeptical of me. I was severlly insulted by the employment > divisions of two companys that offered me high paying jobs that had nothing > that they needed done, that simply took advantage of the fact that I was a > double minority and formerly a student without taxable income (some states > with employment drives give Big tax breaks for hiring someone that was > formerly unemployed or employed below a subsitance level). If I had taken > those jobs I would have had saved them more money and fulfilled enough > Quotas to make it worth their while to hire me and not have me to anything. > The assumption that I resented was that I *would* do nothing. And, being > above all an arrogant Techer, that angered me enough after a cursory > questioning of my supposed soon-to-be boss to say to the face of the > employment manager that I was not going to take their job and why. Similar situations happen in colleges and universities. The emphasis nowadays is on `enrollment and retention', a euphamism for admitting as many targeted- group students as possible, then making sure that they stay as long as possible. This means discouraging them from taking difficult courses or majors (so they don't flunk out) and getting them to take a lesser number of courses per semester/quarter (so they graduate in 5 or 6 instead of the usual 4 years; such a 5 year student counts 5/4 as much as a 4 year student in figuring quotas). The result is that the really well qualified student who would have gotten in and succeeded anyway to feel inferior because of his/her race/sex. The presence of a large number of `quota admits' lowers the college community's perception of the student's race/sex, thus causing others to see him/her less favorably than a student from a non-targeted group. Those who are the actual `quota admits' would face the same prejudice, but also would likely receive an education of marginal value (the easiest major and course selection).