Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci Subject: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists? Message-ID: <1360@psivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Jul-86 15:36:08 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.1360 Posted: Thu Jul 24 15:36:08 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Jul-86 07:27:33 EDT References: <1970@brl-smoke.ARPA> <320@rtech.UUCP> <2064@brl-smoke.ARPA> <14838@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <2240@brl-smoke.ARPA> <502@mida Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.women:11584 net.sci:1366 In article <502@midas.UUCP> jeffw@midas.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) writes: > > Discrimination against takes >the form of "I'm not going to hire any lazy niggers". Discrimination for >takes the form of "I'm going to give these people the benefit of the >doubt". Just because you can cast it in a form where these two sound >similar doesn't make them the same. Life is not mathematics, or even >physics. > There is a second kind of discrimination for that says "I don't want ot hire any lazy niggers, but the government says I got to". It is *this* that is being promoted by Affirmative Action, it would take a quite different approach to get the "benifit of the doubt" scenario you mentioned. To get that you must get the employer to cooperate voluntarily, because he sees it as a good thing. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ??