Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!topaz!ll-xn!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!tektronix!teklds!dadla!rob From: rob@dadla.UUCP (Rob Vetter) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci Subject: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists? Message-ID: <944@dadla.UUCP> Date: Wed, 30-Jul-86 14:34:47 EDT Article-I.D.: dadla.944 Posted: Wed Jul 30 14:34:47 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Aug-86 02:34:30 EDT References: <1970@brl-smoke.ARPA> <320@rtech.UUCP> <2064@brl-smoke.ARPA> <315@uw-vlsi.ARPA> <12515@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: rob@dadla.UUCP (Rob Vetter) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 24 Xref: watmath net.women:11746 net.sci:1412 In article <12515@amdcad.UUCP> linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) writes: >When I was in the M.S. program at Caltech I found that one group of >men had formed a clique and never talked to me or to the other >American woman in our class. > [...] > I very strongly suspected that >these men's cliquishness existed in order to hide violations of the >Caltech honor system. > [...] > One woman I know was accepted into such a group >after she did several things to show that she was one of them and could >act as just as badly. This is not a MALE or primarily male thing. Cheating is a HUMAN thing as your last example shows. -- Rob Vetter (503) 629-1044 [ihnp4, ucbvax, decvax, uw-beaver]!tektronix!dadla!rob " " !psu-cs!vetterr "Waste is a terrible thing to mind" - NRC (Well, they COULD have said it)