Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!im4u!ut-sally!husc6!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!ctnews!dv2!mitisft!andrew From: andrew@mitisft.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics,net.sci,net.philosophy Subject: Re: A Sane Man Proposes A Time Travel Experiment Message-ID: <140@mitisft.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-Jul-86 19:50:50 EDT Article-I.D.: mitisft.140 Posted: Thu Jul 31 19:50:50 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Aug-86 10:31:50 EDT References: <289@axiom.UUCP> <5723@lanl.ARPA> <5594@sun.uucp> Organization: Convergent Technologies, San Jose, CA Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.physics:4723 net.sci:1429 net.philosophy:6411 Summary: 2-d universe is really 3-d! (at least) In article <5594@sun.uucp>, lyang@sun.uucp (Larry Yang) writes: > In article <5723@lanl.ARPA> dxm@lanl.ARPA (Douglas Miller) writes: > >Time travel violates the conservation of mass and energy laws. Consider > ... > I used to believe this argument, too, 'til I got my brain out of the > classical view of the universe. Consider time as an additional dimension. > ... > As an analogy, consider a 2-D universe. Imagine a 1-kg "square" of gold > begin translated 1 "hour" perpendicular to this plane. Now our original > universe is now 1-kg less, but the overall universe has the same mass. The problem with this is, in a universe with two spatial dimensions, a "2-cube" of gold would not appear to us as a square; rather it would be a square tube -- a 3-d object, since it exists at many different times. If the gold didnt move, it would be a straight tube (prism?). If it moved in space, the tube would wiggle. If it broke into pieces, the tube would branch. What would happen if it were "moved in time"? The tube would be broken off, and the entire "future" part of it would be translated forwards. Thus there would be a gap in the tube. By Heisenberg, this sort of structure is rather unlikely... Andrew Knutsen Convergent Technologies -- hplabs!pyramid!ctnews!andrew I speak for myself only... CT isnt in the time travel business anyway (yet).