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From: sandersr@ecn-pc.UUCP (Robert C Sanders)
Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists?
Message-ID: <608@ecn-pc.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 1-Aug-86 20:03:39 EDT
Article-I.D.: ecn-pc.608
Posted: Fri Aug  1 20:03:39 1986
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Reply-To: sandersr@ecn-pc.UUCP (Robert C Sanders)
Organization: Electrical Engineering Department , Purdue University
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In article <771@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> cheryl@batcomputer.UUCP (cheryl) writes:
>In article <670@polaris.UUCP> herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) writes:
>>face it Cheryl, you just hate men on principle.  no exceptions.
>
>You just don't like seeing the subtler games men play to keep women down
>exposed in such a ruthless fashion.  I don't hate men.  I'm just able
>to see through their games.

I find half-heartedly refreshing to see women (really anybody) behave like
this.  I don't like it when it knowingly happens to me, but when I see it
happen to someone else, I am ammused. (no comment on spelling, it Friday..)

Except for her harshest statements, I don't really see that Cheryl hates
men, after all she does point out the she dates them and has fun with them.
What she does do is to play devious activities on other people.

I grew up with a group of girls in our neighborhood (7 of them) where I was
only one of two guys in the same age group.  They were just like Cheryl
(at least by her postings), only this was SEVEN of them.  It was fun to
listen to all of the stuff they would plan out against other people (usually
me or some guys in another addition).  They wouldn't worry about me
overhearing them on the bus home, because they considered me only one
weird guy who didn't much matter anyway (I still don't, but oh well :-) )
It was not like they hated guys; they justed liked to have fun and pray
upon anybody's weaknesses -- they guys usually had more weaknesses and were
easier to pray upon.

Eventually, because I had a car (I worked two or three jobs at the same
time in high school), and because I liked playing things on other people
as well, they sometimes hung around me, either to exploit what I was
willing to (I was the one who go up to a house and do things like cut
the phone wire and put a tape deck to it), or ignore me when they did
something and let me tag along.

We did physical things to a lot of people, but what was most fun was to
play games with their minds -- ie. politics.  We would tell them something
that was false, but slanted in their view, and someone the same thing but
slanted in the othe view, and sure enough, we could get these people to do
(almost) whatever we wanted.  It was fun (and still is -- ever BSed a 
project to the way YOU wanted?)
					- bob
-- 
Continuing Engineering Education Telecommunications
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Let's make like a BSD process, and go FORK-OFF !!	-- bob
(and "make" a few children while we're at it ...)