Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!nike!kaufman From: kaufman@nike.uucp (Bill Kaufman) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.sci,net.philosophy,net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: A Sane Man Proposes A Time Travel Experiment Message-ID: <462@nike.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Aug-86 12:40:11 EDT Article-I.D.: nike.462 Posted: Mon Aug 4 12:40:11 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Aug-86 21:17:19 EDT References: <289@axiom.UUCP> <5723@lanl.ARPA> <7489@tekecs.UUCP> <83@unc.unc.UUCP> <556@sunybcs.UUCP> Sender: usenet@nike.UUCP Reply-To: kaufman@orion.UUCP (Bill Kaufman) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 64 Xref: mnetor net.physics:2534 net.sci:1165 net.philosophy:2244 net.sf-lovers:7300 [this was, I assume, sent to me accidentally] Date: Fri, 1 Aug 86 21:36:05 cdt From: caip!ihnp4!mmm!cipher (Andre Guirard) Message-Id: <8608020236.AA18362@mmm.SERCNET> To: floyd!caip!nike!kaufman Subject: Re: A Sane Man Proposes A Time Travel Experiment Newsgroups: net.physics,net.sci,net.philosophy,net.sf-lovers In-Reply-To: <451@nike.UUCP> References: <289@axiom.UUCP> <5723@lanl.ARPA> <7489@tekecs.UUCP> <83@unc.unc.UUCP> Organization: 3M Company, St. Paul, Minn. Cc: Status: R In article <451@nike.UUCP> you write: >In article <7489@tekecs.UUCP> mikes@tekecs.UUCP (Michael Sellers) writes: >...If you were the one capable of sending something back, what (or >>who) would it be? > >A nuclear bomb. Something that would, by "appearing" in that time, >materialize in my grandfather. A computer & manual, destined for T.A. Edison >in Menlo Park, NJ. The plans for "Opertion: Overlord" to die F^uhrer's >office (excuse the attempt at an umlaut) in Berlin. >In general, anything that would cause an identifiable, unavoidable mistake >in time. Great way to verify whether we live in a "parallel" universe, or >a "serial" one (cf. "Thrice Upon a Time," by (James P.?) Hogan). It's a good way to tell if you live in a parallel universe, but it's not a good way to tell if you live in a serial one, since the experiment would have a high probability of causing the experimenter never to have existed, or at least never to have conducted the experiment. Better to conduct the experiment on a smaller scale, then you can be sure that you'll be around to see the results. It seems like I've heard a theory to the effect that time travel can't exist not because it's theoretically impossible, but because the invention of time travel makes it possible to modify the past, making time travel never to have been discovered. Knowing how to travel in time is an unstable situation. -- ===+=== Andre Guirard /@ @\ ihnp4!mmm!cipher /_____\ ( @ @ ) My mission: to explore strange new words. \ _ / To seek out and utilize new applications. `-' To shovel snow that snow plows have shoved before. [And now, for the same, low price: a reply! ;-] OK, maybe I was stretching it. Something a little less severe, perhaps. Just so the experimenter will continue to exist--say, kill off someone current and famous. If you're in a serial universe, the event (person, in this case) will simply cease to exist. In other words, if nothing happens, you're in a serial universe! ;-) -Annoyingly, Bilbo. ___________________________________________________________________________ / DISCLAIMER: If I had an opinion, do you think I'd let my employers know? \ |E-MAIL: kaufman@orion.arpa or kaufman@orion.arc.nasa.gov | |FLAMES: Look, Ma, an asbestos mbox! (Gee, wish *you* had one, huh?) | |QUOTE: "Are you a commie? Good. Don't want no commies in my car. | | No Christians, either!" | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+