Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ihnp4!mmm!cipher From: cipher@mmm.UUCP (Andre Guirard) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.sci,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Re: A Sane Man Proposes A Time Travel Experiment Message-ID: <1037@mmm.UUCP> Date: Tue, 5-Aug-86 15:53:39 EDT Article-I.D.: mmm.1037 Posted: Tue Aug 5 15:53:39 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 7-Aug-86 02:14:19 EDT References: <289@axiom.UUCP> <5723@lanl.ARPA> <720@riccb.UUCP> Reply-To: cipher@mmm.UUCP (Andre Guirard) Organization: 3M Company, St. Paul, Minn. Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.physics:4751 net.sci:1459 net.philosophy:6457 In article <720@riccb.UUCP> jmc@riccb.UUCP (Jeff McQuinn ) writes: >Since time and distance traveled are more or less interchangeable quantities >(one can't be expressed without the other) it would seem that in order to >back up in in time, the events that occured between leaving the future and >arriving in the past would have to "unhappen". The first event to unhappen >would be that I tried to move back in time (which may short circuit the >attempt). Secondly, since my time is firmly locked together with the rest >of the universes time, my events unhappening would need to drag the rest >of the universe along (to back up to yesterday I would need the earth to back >up one revolution and so on and so on because universal movements were an >event that happened during my time). Next, my concept of having this time >trip would have to unhappen. So here I somehow am an hour before with no >concept of having gotten here, and no idea of whats going to happen. Since >my time trip unhappened I didn't do it and since I don't know I didn't do it >I couldn't prove that I didn't (-: do it. I would expect a short circuit on >the attempt and see no results... But you _could_ prove it! You need a non-deterministic random-number generator, one based on atomic decay for instance. Use this device to generate a random number in the range 0 to 99. Then, if the number is not 42, use your experimental time-machine to reset time to just before the number was generated. Repeat this procedure 10,000 times. If the time-machine works, you will observe that the random-number generator generated the same number, 42, 10,000 times. -- ===+=== Andre Guirard /@ @\ ihnp4!mmm!cipher /_____\ ( @ @ ) My mission: to explore strange new words. \ _ / To seek out and utilize new applications. `-' To shovel snow that snow plows have shoved before.