Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!nike!sri-spam!gds From: gds@sri-spam.ARPA (The lost Bostonian) Newsgroups: net.women,net.sci Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why are there so few [female|black] physicists? Message-ID: <6208@sri-spam.ARPA> Date: Thu, 7-Aug-86 16:17:57 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-spam.6208 Posted: Thu Aug 7 16:17:57 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 9-Aug-86 09:01:12 EDT References: <4368@decwrl.DEC.COM> <719@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> <326@encore.UUCP> Organization: the Bay Area, for now Lines: 33 Xref: watmath net.women:11948 net.sci:1473 What Cheryl did reminds me of some things some of my college classmates used to tell me, that computer science was too hard, the professors were prejudiced and favored white males, that white males had access to old exams, that computer science was too nebulous a subject (and best to stick to something more tangible, like EE). The strange thing was that it was coming from other blacks! Their attitude came from a lack of understanding what makes a person want to go into computer science (most of my black friends who liked math in high school became EE's) and a lack of information on the CS curriculum (the first few classes are weed-out types and lots of blacks at my undergrad got weeded out, scared, and tried to talk their classmates out of it also, to *save* them from suffering). (One of the sad things about this situation was that the minority education office did little to encourage more blacks to go into computer science, and were in part responsible for the discouragement.) I was foolish enough to listen for three years, including once when I switched majors to EE (actually I never took anything like a semiconductor or E&M course so I don't know how much I wouldn't have liked it, but a semester without my hands on computers was enough to make me realize what I was missing). I did my best while an undergraduate to encourage other black students I knew who were interested in computer science but unsure about studying it. I also tried to get black women interested also. One of them became the president of our black EE/CS society. In general, I think I did a lot to promote good feelings in blacks about the undergraduate major in computer science. If I had had that kind of encouragement in my earlier undergrad years I could have turned out a much better student. --gregbo